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Horn or Embryo
The horn reminds me of an embryo. Snowstone 18:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the horn is the tip of the seahorse's tail in closeup? -- ShksprTX 15:18 (CDT), 29 July 2009
- - I don't think that the horn is the end of the seahorse because the horn has smaller bumps then the seahorse does so I do not think it is the same. Kmacd 16:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Image descriptions
I fixed a couple of the image descriptions because they were wrong. I couldn't see any feathers in the butterfly glyph so I removed that idea. And in the flower glyph I couldn't see any bee pattern in the flower center, so I removed that idea as well. What is manifest in the center of the flower is a Fermat's spiral, which is a manifestation of the Fibonacci sequence and the constant Φ. Also, those wings aren't bee wings (like these), they're from a gomphid dragonfly (like these wings). Ninjatacoshell 17:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- - Thanks! You're right about the bee/dragon fly stuff, but I still think the butterfly wings are feathers and bones. Look at bottom edge of the wings in the full sized image, and compare it to a close up of a feather
- - The moth is a Madagascan Sunset Moth (Chrysiridia ripheus; see a picture here). As you can see, the Sunset Moth's wings are naturally fuzzy at the bottom—it's not a feather. Ninjatacoshell 15:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Yellow Dot
What is the Yellow dot present in most of the glyphs? Snowstone 18:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- - Quite Possibly they are mean't to draw significance to the glyph during the time it is used in the series. An example is that the Hand Glyph is used in every episode during the opening sequence but is not accompanied by a dot. If the dot signifies that the glyph it appears with is significant then this would explain why the hand appears in every episode without a dot, because it is not significant without it's dot. Robinabo Talk Contribs 02:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- - As my 'episodes' don't seem to come with all the glyphs still present, I'm unable to explore any theories I may have about this dot, which is suggested to be randomly placed here. Could people who do have the ability actually post screenshots of the dot placement for each episode, instead of just the generic images? tia. ACook 02:40, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- - I think with the hand glyph that is in the opening sequence has no significance. I believe that the yellow dots are there to tell us that the glyph has some type of hidden meaning because there are some hand glyphs that have yellow dots. Kmacd 16:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- - I agree that the mystery of the Yellow Dots have not been answered. They may have something to do with interpretation in different universes. –DocH– my edits 22:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Golden Triangle
I think the triangle in the leaf glyph might be a Golden Triangle, but it may be too wide. What do you think? Ninjatacoshell 14:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- - I do not believe it is a golden triangle because the bottom is too wide. Kmacd 16:55, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Ordering
In the official fringe podcast it is hinted that we may want to keep tract of the order in which they appear in each episode... has anyone been paying attention to that?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bannwiegel (talk • contribs) 18:59, 2 October 2008.
- - Yeah - I was thinking the same; the article says that the symbols have appeared in the show, but is that really true? Pierre 14:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
- - I am pondering wether or not to go back and watch the episodes sometime on Hulu and list the order of the glyphs as they appear prior to ad blocks. If anyone else has listed them out, any hints would be very much appreciated! Geigerjjr
Here is what I have on my digital clips. The question mark is where I clipped the clip too short and don't have the raw data to retrieve. The end montage in pilot is 80% guessing on my part - the leaf tho is much wider than the std. one. Notice there is one glyph that hasn't been used yet.
- Butterfly, Leaf, Apple, Rt Hand, Apple, Rt Hand, Frog, end montage=(BroadLeaf/RouletteTable/HardDrive/SatelliteDish/DNA Strand/MDLogo) in Pilot
- Leaf, Frog, Apple, Flower, Apple in The Same Old Story
Leaf, Apple, -blank-, Apple, Frogin The Ghost Network- Frog, Butterfly, Leaf, Lt Hand, Apple in The Arrival
- Rt Hand, Lt Hand, Frog, Leaf, Leaf in Power Hungry
- - - below this line, they moved the last glyph to just before the Bad Robot logo - - -
- Apple, Apple, Flower, Flower, Rt Hand in The Cure
- Apple, Butterfly, Apple, Apple, Rt Hand in In Which We Meet Mr. Jones
- Smoke, Leaf, Flower, Apple, Seahorse in The Equation
- Rt Hand, Butterfly, Flower, Apple, Apple in The Dreamscape
- Smoke, Frog, Leaf, Apple, Apple in Safe
–DocH– my edits 10:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I added your list to each episode except The Ghost Network. The glyph you are missing is the leaf. However in my recording of the show, the next commercial break starts on a black screen with no glyph (strange). You are however showing an apple. Do you still have this recording to check?--LabgoTalk|Contribs 03:57, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- - I checked and my recording draws a blank too. I think that I may have garnered that from the re-run/re-airing of the episode - but - I cannot provide the proof. Therefore, in the interest of accuracy and canon, I have no hesitation in withdrawing the observation I thought to be. Honestly, I spent hours going over commercial breaks, to create the list. If I made an error - so be it. But I did put my best effort toward the accuracy, no guessing. –DocH– my edits 05:03, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- - Checking again. leaf - apple - blank - apple - frog –DocH– my edits
- - The problem here is that I have leaf - apple - leaf - blank - frog so our blank is not at the same location! I just rechecked the recording now. There is a leaf before the commercial starting just after the disk is removed from the person's hand. My blank screen is just after the guy gets run over by a bus.--LabgoTalk|Contribs 09:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- - Let's go with yours. I don't have the bandwidth to watch on-line. My digi-cam breaks the 52 minutes of "show" into about 50 time-coded scenes. I piece them back together into the 6 Acts we see, so I can review at my leisure. I may have made an error in the process of reforming them in my Movie-Maker software. I don't have that raw data anymore, either on tape, or as bulk download. Plus I have no interest in the glyphs (until they become important). –DocH– my edits 18:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Leaf with bird
In the latest episode (and I think it was also in previous ones) there was a symbol that was a thin leaf that has what appears to be a bird's head on the top right side, that isn't in the list on this page. I think it was the second or third break in the last episode. My computer is acting up at the moment so I can't screencap it (do they include those segments online?), but I'll try to later. --Stevehim 10:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- - Nevermind. I watched it again, and it was just the flower (though I do think that one of the petals appears to be a bird of some kind). --Stevehim 13:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Horn Symbol
Where has the Horn symbol appeared, other than the 1.61803398874989484820458683436563811.com website? --Moo 21:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
All of the glyphs!
My theory is that they have or are trying to find a way to creat life without giving birth because one of the braille paragraphs says "Science and technology have advanced far beyond our ability to control them. the ability to generate life has taken a new couse" my understanding of the last sentace is that they can generate life in a new way. Also to back up my theory in one of the sea horse glyphs is the eqations for the amino acids L-histidine and L-proline. L-histidine is used to help your heart function and it also helps your immune system (key things in a liveing person animal or insect). L-proline is used to make colagen which is the main structral protein that constitutes all human connective tissues such as skin, tendons, ligaments, joints, bones, veins, and arteries (also key things in human bodies). everything I just mentioned can creat a human or help keep a human body intacked all it would need is blood which would be the only flaw because it wouldn't have a specific blood type so I don't know if any blood would work or if any blood can work. Also the apple glyph has human embryoes instead of seeds, the flower has dragonfly wings for some peddels and the moth not butterfly has human bones in its wings. This all makes me think that they are using living things to help grow the parts or the whole thing (in the case of the apple) to help them creat life. I also think that that the number Pi (Phi) has something to do with the process because the frog has the symbol on its back, the horn is a fibonacci spiral (which has to do with pi) and the seahorse has pi on its side and its tale is a fibonacci spiral.
The only things I don't know yet would be what the smoke, hand and leaf have to do with this if anyone has any ideas please let me know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kmacd (talk • contribs) .
Finger Facts
This has nothing to do with the show but thought you might like to know there was an MLB pitcher named Antonio Alfonseca who had six fingers. Actually I believe he had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dkc 568 (talk • contribs) .
The Leaf glyph
The triangle on the Leaf glyph is actually a Sierpinsky Triangle. If you continue the process to create it to infinity, you get a shape with infinite edge length but zero area.
